Re: Hat

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 50295
Date: 2007-10-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> I thought Alb. 'q' was /c^/. Did I miss something?

No. Alb, 'q' is /ky/ not /c^/



> So you are claiming that cãciulã/kësule is from PIE *kWekWVl- or
what
> (I assume Dacian was satem)? What does that match up with in
Pokorny?
> How come both *kass- and *katt- turn up in Germanic, NWBlock, Latin
> and Greek, and how are they related to *kWekWVl- (vel sim.)?


No. I'm not claiming this etymology:
Dacian was satem with the particularity that kW/+ > c^ gW/+ > g^
(as in PAlb). So, a supposed *kWekWVl- would give *c^ekul- , that is
not the case

As I said: PIE *kat- or only *kaT fits both Dacian *kac^- and Latin
cassis => so I think that we have a dental+dental cluster here:
(because PIE Dental+Dental > Latin ss ; PIE Dental+Dental > Albanian
s)

Based on this, my proposal for this etymology is *kaT-T-
(please to check if a Dental+Dental cluster fits the Germanic forms,
too...)

I'm still not sure about the sufix here and even if the root was *kat-
or *kad(H)- etc...

All I can add, is that: not having the rhotacism in Romanian the
PAlb/Dacian? word finished in -lw- > -ll- : *kaT-T-ul-w-eh2

If PIE *kaT-T- (Latin cassis, Rom c&c^ul& <-> Alb k&sul&) can be
fully demonstrated this will be extraordinary : because Romanian
preserved in this case the original output of PIE's Dental+Dental
constructions in PAlb/Dacian? :

PIE *Dental+Dental > PAlb/Dacian? c^ > Romanian c^ <-> Albanian s


Marius