Hat = Kads

Hello

i agree with tou and i would like to contribute more

In Celtic the word Kassi- means (may be) = Hair/To entangle/Leafy

cf Old Irish Cas = Hair curled/To confuse/Twisted

Pline said the "Cesar name" com from Latin Caesaries = Hair beceause When cesar born, he came with "long-haired"

and more IE links

Grec Kotsida = Tress, Latin Cassis = Helmet and Cassita (a king of bird = Tufted) and Itlian Cesto = Tuft, Osque Casnar = Old = white haired

Macedonian Kosa = Hair, Romanian (Dace ?) Cosita = Tress,

Serbo-Croate Kaciga = Helmet, Tchec Kader = Curled, Ukrainian Koca = Tress. Bulgarian Kosa/Koca = Pompom

Albanish Kaçurrel = Curled

cf Celtic oak = Cass-ano- = Leafy one ?

I think this word is connect as you said with IE Kadh (To protect/To cover) like :

Germanic Khattuz = To cover, Old English Hæt → English Hat. Old Norse Hattr. Lituanian Kudas (Bird comb)

We've got too Old English Hassuc > English Hassock and may be English Fuzz

Concerning Chatti name(Germanic tribe) may be come from "To hate" or "To fight"

*To hate

Britonnic : Old Breton Cas/Cassat → Breton Kas/Kassaad (Aversion/Hate). Cornic Câs/Casa (Enmity/Hate/Hostility). Welsh Cas/Casàu/Casaf/Casineb (Abhor/Antipathy/Anger/Hate)

Gaelic : Old Irish Cais (Hate) → Irish Caiss

With IE links

Germanic Khatojanan/Khatis (Hate) → Gotic Hatan → Old English Hatian English → Hate. German Hassen. Deutsch Haten. Frisian and Norse Hate. Old Suedish Haton. Old Norse Hata. Danish Hade.

Lituanien Kaistu (Devenir brûlant)

Grec Kedos (Pain/Problem). Latin Casti-gare (To punish)

Sanskrit Kasti (Bad/Naughty/Sévere) et Kasta (Misfortune/Misery)

cf Celtic tribe name :

* Badio-kasse = [with]Fatal hate

(Old Breton Bat = Epidemic, Welsh Bad = Death, Irish Dath = Agony)

* Su-kasses = Hateful

(Breton Hegas = Odious)

* Tri-Kasses and Tri-kastini = To go through by the hate (if Tri- = Tr(e)i)

* Uidu-Kasses = Who knows the hate (If Uid = Uist-)

(Welsh Gwys = Notice, Old Irish Fis/Fiss/Fiuss (Vision/Knowledge)

* To fight = Battle

* Indo-Européan Kot-.

Brittonic : Old Breton Cat → Breton Kad. Cornic Câs. Welsh Cad/Cadeu

Gaélic : Old Irish and Scot Cath. Manx Cah (Military action).

1 -Germanic : Old Hight German Hadu-mâr → Middle hight German Hader. Runnic Haðu-laika → Old Norse Hqð

2 Germanic Khaistiz → Gotic Haifsts (Struggle). Francic Haifst (Violent). Old English Hæste (Impetuous) → English Haste

Slave Kotora (Battle)

Grec Kótos (Hate. Latin Casside (To take up arms). Thracian Katroso (In the battle). Roumanian (Dave ?) Cãtrãnit (Furious)

Sanskrit Kathina (Cruel/Hard) and Sátruh (Ennemy)

So we've got links beteween

* Kats > Kass = Hair [to cover]

* Kast > Kat- = To fitgh/To hate

In french the word "Haïr" means "To hate"

so the Chatti tribe = "the agressive one"

tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> a écrit :

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@ ...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Romanian cãciulã /c&c^ul&/ 'hat' / Alb kësulë 'id.
> > > should belong here too...
> > > and if so, this is more likely an IE-word rather than a Germanic
> > > substrate one.
> >
> > Erh, why? If you think so, what is its IE etymology?
> >
>
> Couldn't it be *kadh- 'to cover; guard': Latin cassis, -idis
> 'helmet', MIr cais 'love', mis-cuis 'hate': OHG huot, English hat:
> Alb kësulë (Rom cãciulã),

> beside Alb kacole 'kind of hat weaved together with the coat' <
> *kadh-s-,

Why not instead *katt-jo:- > Alb. kacole, Rom. cãciulã (> PGerm.
hatt-jo: > ON heita (same meaning), and *kass- > Alb. kësulë (not that
I'm familiar with the relevant rules for Albanian and Alb. loans in
Romanian)?

> maybe related to *kat- 'to weave together'; Alb kas-olle 'hut,
> shed'.

Together with Eng. cot, German Kotte / WRomance *kasa / PGerm. xu:s
"house", so originally "a kind of yurt"?

If you try to join the Pokorny roots *kadh- and *kat-, Salmons'
criterion d applies:
"Some of the words show irregular sound correspondences between
languages or dialects, indicating separate borrowings which reflect
different sound substitution strategies or distinct but related source
idioms.
"
which means Pokorny was wrong in assigning these two reconstructed
roots to PIE. Individually they are also suspect of being substrate by
the /a/-vocalism.

I just came across (in Dansk Etymologisk Ordbog)

Da hæs "large stack", No. hes, Sw. dial. häs, < proto-NGermanic
*hasjo:-, side form *hasjo:n- > No. hesje, Sw. hässja "rack for drying
hay"; of uncertain origin.

Da. hase, Sw. dial. has "hull of (hazel)nut", same word as [which
means??] Germ. Hose "pants", Da. hose "stocking", Eng. hose
[looks more like a case of NWBlock a/o-ablaut to me]

That way *kosul- > hazel Lat. corylus would be "the hooded (nut)"

Torsten

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