Re: Hat

From: tgpedersen
Message: 50281
Date: 2007-10-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Romanian cãciulã /c&c^ul&/ 'hat' / Alb kësulë 'id.
> > > should belong here too...
> > > and if so, this is more likely an IE-word rather than a Germanic
> > > substrate one.
> >
> > Erh, why? If you think so, what is its IE etymology?
> >
>
> Couldn't it be *kadh- 'to cover; guard': Latin cassis, -idis
> 'helmet', MIr cais 'love', mis-cuis 'hate': OHG huot, English hat:
> Alb kësulë (Rom cãciulã),

> beside Alb kacole 'kind of hat weaved together with the coat' <
> *kadh-s-,

Why not instead *katt-jo:- > Alb. kacole, Rom. cãciulã (> PGerm.
hatt-jo: > ON heita (same meaning), and *kass- > Alb. kësulë (not that
I'm familiar with the relevant rules for Albanian and Alb. loans in
Romanian)?

> maybe related to *kat- 'to weave together'; Alb kas-olle 'hut,
> shed'.

Together with Eng. cot, German Kotte / WRomance *kasa / PGerm. xu:s
"house", so originally "a kind of yurt"?


If you try to join the Pokorny roots *kadh- and *kat-, Salmons'
criterion d applies:
"Some of the words show irregular sound correspondences between
languages or dialects, indicating separate borrowings which reflect
different sound substitution strategies or distinct but related source
idioms.
"
which means Pokorny was wrong in assigning these two reconstructed
roots to PIE. Individually they are also suspect of being substrate by
the /a/-vocalism.

I just came across (in Dansk Etymologisk Ordbog)

Da hæs "large stack", No. hes, Sw. dial. häs, < proto-NGermanic
*hasjo:-, side form *hasjo:n- > No. hesje, Sw. hässja "rack for drying
hay"; of uncertain origin.

Da. hase, Sw. dial. has "hull of (hazel)nut", same word as [which
means??] Germ. Hose "pants", Da. hose "stocking", Eng. hose
[looks more like a case of NWBlock a/o-ablaut to me]

That way *kosul- > hazel Lat. corylus would be "the hooded (nut)"


Torsten