Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 50148
Date: 2007-09-30

Another possibility is to look at words where -i- and -u-
are obvious morphological additions :
 
i-kn-u "ash" from *k_n
i-khth-uH "fish"
This can be a derivative of gh_H "to yawn, open the mouth"
 
These two words exhibit : i_u
as vocalic scheme.
There is neither -y- nor -w- in the roots.
 
i-p(h)n-os "oven" from i-kwH2-(s)no "baking device"
from kwH2 "to burn"
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Ryan
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Finally, a good question!
 
Need to be VERBAL because, if nominal, the stress-accent can have occasioned Ablaut;
 
for example, an actually occurring *-u- could (and would in my opinion) simply be the zero-grade of *-éu-.
 
If we were looking at *CuC, we would have to reject the form since the actual root would be *Céw + a root extension (the final *C), thus *CéCC-.
 
 
Patrick Ryan
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----- Original Message -----
From: etherman23
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

Why do they need to be verbal roots?

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> Long i: versus zero
> ki:ku-s strength
> shvayati to be strong
> *ku- > shv as in kuHon "dog"
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> There is no reason to reject *i and *u as vowels.
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> You yourself have provided the reason for rejecting *i and *u as
vowels:
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> your failure to furnish 5 VERBAL roots of the form *CiC, or
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> 5 VERBAL roots of the form *CuC.
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> If *i and *u are *V, then providing VERBAL roots of the form
*CVC with *i and *u should be no problem.
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> Patrick Ryan
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