Re: Re[4]: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 50143
Date: 2007-09-30

Early attestations of OE, ON, OSax, and OHG are far too
similar to be the result of some three millennia of
divergence; the suggestion can't be taken seriously.

Brian

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1.
I have read that you can transpose word by word Sanscrit
into Lituanian and get decent Lituanian :
MAybe PIE has not even started splitting in fact !?
 
2.
How many different conjugations and roots have been listed
in Old English for the most basic verb : to be.
I heard a joke that there are as many verbs "to be" as you can find OE texts.
I don't think these languages are that much similar.
I(ch) stand means present in English : past : I got up in German.
There are major incoherences within Westic.
 
3.
If you take the 100 word list as a base for a rough datation,
FRench versus Italian : 79 %
English versus German : 72 %
French against English/German : 34 or 35 %.
 
Erzia and Moksha within URalic : 83%
We know from tombs, that display different features,
that these two branches of Mordvin were already separated
2500 years ago.
Some people even think these are only one language.
 
If we take the average 79 and 83 : 81
this about - 10 % per 1000 year
(You can check with .xls Power(0,9999;year)
 
Westic is 100-72 = 28
Westic is split in individual languages
at least since around -1 500 BC.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian M. Scott
To: fournet.arnaud
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: Re[4]: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

At 3:53:19 PM on Saturday, September 29, 2007,
fournet.arnaud wrote:

> From: Brian M. Scott

>> At 1:06:22 AM on Saturday, September 29, 2007,
>> fournet.arnaud wrote:

>> [...]

>>> English and German were different languages as early as
>>> - 2500,

>> This is obviously impossible, both linguistically and
>> historically.

> Obvious impossible !?

> For which reasons ?

Early attestations of OE, ON, OSax, and OHG are far too
similar to be the result of some three millennia of
divergence; the suggestion can't be taken seriously.

Brian