From: Rick McCallister
Message: 50117
Date: 2007-09-29
>I got the number from a Saami specialist Ante Aikio
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> From: michelmrvn
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> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:45 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Re:
> Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > So when do you think the Saami began speaking
> Uralic
> > and the Finns moved into Finland?
> > Saami, supposedly has 25% pre-Uralic substrate
> and I
> > have no clue about any substrate in Finnish.
> > I've always wondered about shared substrate
> among
> > Germanic, Saami, Balto-Finnic and Baltic --but
> none of
> > you will get up off your duffs and figure it out
> for
> > me.
> >
>
> ===============
><snip>
> A.F
>
> I'm afraid this 25% number makes little sense.
>
> Each proto-Uralic word is usually shared by less
> than 50% of Uralic languages,
>
> Most often less that 30%.
>
> and more than 50% words of each Uralic language is
> not ascribable to proto-Uralic.
>
> So I do not know what this ""25%"" ""substrate""
> means.
>
> (My point of view : most probably Nothing at all).
>
>Interesting since we're looking at sth like hard <
> A.F
>
> So, it is great news that we have a specialist of
> basque in town.
>
> Note that both saami garrat "hard, rough"/basque
> garrats have the same phonetic structure as the word
> hard itself : velar + a + rhotic + dental.
>BUT isn't the Uralic root closer to Finnish kolme (if
> What do you think about :
>
> Basque : hiru : "three"
>
> Ungarian : ha:rom : "three".