[tied] Re: Saussure laryngeal loss

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

>
> The Latin word collina "hill" < kolH1-na
> is (very) troublesome.
> Lituanian kalna < kolH-na (intonation and verb kél-ti prove H)
> Grec kolo:nos

The "laryngeal" should be H3 (xW). Latin probably has a late
derivative of collis, not directly related to the others in -no-.

I'd say they're from a perfectly normal *kol-xW-mos (words in -no-
don't have o-grade) with dissimilation.

> Armenian holm "wind" from HonH1-m is ok.

Unlikely; aL>oL in Arm. All H are lost equally between syl. there.

> Personally, I think that Saussure's Law does not apply to LAtin.
> I believe Saussure's LAw is a major eastern isogloss,
> from which Latin and maybe Celtic are excluded.

I think each IE language has its own laws about H-loss between syl.,
some very extensive, definitely not limited to H1.