Re: Re[6]: Fw: [tied] Pferd

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From: Brian M. Scott

To: fournet.arnaud

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:50 PM

Subject: Re[6]: Fw: [tied] Pferd

At 9:11:49 AM on Thursday, August 9, 2007, fournet.arnaud
wrote:

> Germanic f is a "decent" pointer to *p but it is not
> decisive, if ones looks at number four from *kwettwer and
> wolf from wlkw-os.

True, it's not decisive, but both of those examples are
explainable by a Gmc. tendency for *kW to assimilate to
another labial segment in the same root.

> *p can arise from *kw, and this happens
> in Germanic and also LAtin. lupus also is from *wlkwos.

> So if I try to summarize my idea more "consistently" ,
> I start with root *kw_r "tree",
> this root can give :
> *kw_r-kw hence both p_rkw and kw_rkw "oak"
> *kw_r-esno "tree"
> *kw_r+ XX "other tree names"

This does not address the inconsistency that I pointed out
in my last post.

> Note that in Sanscrit parkata (supposedly *perkw-) is a Ficus
> But karibha is also a Ficus (< *kwer- )
> If you accept parkata, take karibha too.

No, thank you: it clearly doesn't belong.

> Besides,
> how do you explain foraha with -o- in front of quercus
> with -e- ?

Evidently the Gmc. word is from zero-grade *prkW- > *furh-,
and this is another instance of OHG lowering of Gmc. *u to
/o/ when followed by a non-high vowel in the next syllable.

> To be continued, I presume !

I don't think so: it appears that I'd be wasting my time.

Brian