Re[2]: Fw: [tied] Pferd

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 49469
Date: 2007-08-07

At 3:00:32 PM on Monday, August 6, 2007, fournet.arnaud
wrote:

> The rook *kwr- for "oak" also exists in LAtin : Quercus.

Except that <quercus> is from *perkWu-.

[...]

> Note that Irish has crann "tree" and Breton" has prenn
> "tree" from *kwr-enn.

From PCelt. *kWresno- 'wood, tree', according to Matasovic,
from PIE *kWres-; OE <hyrst> is cognate, and <quercus> is
unrelated.

> Note that this root *kwr- also gives :
> - portuguese car_v_alho
> - other names of tree : charme, charmille, etc in French

<Charme> is from Latin <carpinum>. After loss of the /i/,
the group /rpn/, like most groups of three consonants not
ending in /r/ or /l/, was reduced by loss of the middle
consonant, but not before the nasal was labialized; the
result was /rm/.

Brian