Re: [tied] Re: park, was *pVs- for cat

That;s a good point because my remark was to WRITTEN
<p>, which may or may not have been pronounced as
such. Perhaps it was a situation like Arabic, where
you can add 3 dots under a <b> to make a <p> but when
you say it they'll still ask you if you're going to
Bombay, India or Bombay, Italy. But I don't pretend
anything about the subject other than what I've read
and haven't forgotten.

--- Richard Wordingham <richard@...>
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
>
> > > park is an intersting word
> > > 1. It can't be Q-Celtic
> > > 2. It couldn't have been borowed by Goidelic
> until
> > > after 500-600 AD because early Old Irish
> > > systematically replaced /p/ with /kw/ then /k/
>
> > In loans from p-Celtic, you mean?
> > Everything is temporary, so there must have been a
> time before that
> > period where Old Irish didn't do that. If it
> replaced /p/ > /kW/ only
> > in loans from p-Celtic as it loaned them, earlier
> loans in p- would
> > have survived. If it replaced all /p/'s with
> /kW/'s, all words in p-
> > must be loaned later than 500-600AD and will be
> NWBlock words in
> English.
>
> Didn't one of the early Irish saints advise that <p>
> could be
> pronounced as a combination of /b/ and /h/? (I
> can't remember the
> details.) This strongly suggests that early Old
> Irish lacked /p/ in
> normal speech.
>
> Richard.
>
>

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