RE : [tied] Germanic folk

From: patrick cuadrado
Message: 48780
Date: 2007-05-29


Germanic etymology
it's very hard to find it and i'm agree about all you said
but if -mani = men it doesn't exist in Celtic and so is not a Celtic word. Look ale-mani = all men = coalition, marco-mani = border man (and not Celtic horse-man !) ane may be Men-apii = water man or marsh-man
 
3 directions :
 
* Gar-man < Ger-man = Spear-man = Germanic word
from Germanic Ger- = Spear , Francique Gêro = cuting part (French Giron), middle Deutsch Ghêre = Spear, Deutsch Guur = Abrasive (?)
 
* Gar-s-man = Howler man, may be Celtic word if = Garsm- <Garm- + suffix -ani
Breton/Welsh Garm = Clamour/Vociferation, Cornic Garma = To exclaim, Old Irish Gairm = Clamour
Look the Celtic goddess name in Brittania = Dea Garman Gabi = who pruchases/takes cry
But Gar-man = Howler man = Germanic word too but i didn't found words in Germanic with Gar- = to cry
English Garish (?),
IE links =
Grec Gerus = Voice, Latin Quir-itare = To cry and Latin Garire = Chatter < Old French Sans dire gaire = No inform, Avestic Garo = Sing praise, Sanskrit Grnati = He praises and Sanskrit Gurtih = Praise, Lituanien Girti = Praise, Pruissian Gerdaut = To say
and may be Armenian Kardem = To raise the voice
 
Remember Tacite Germania 3.2 he gives the word "Barditos" =  A sing intented to give courage for German warriors before the battle, the Celtic  word Bard- come from IE Gwer = Praise
I think Bard- and Gar- come from the same roots
So Garm-ani < Germ-ani can be a Celtic word to design the Howler-man
 
There is another funny way :
Ger-mani in Celtic can be means "The good neighbour"
Ger- = Neighbour : Manx Er Gerrey = Similar/Imminent, Welsh Ger = Near, and Old Irish Gair Neighbour
Mano- = Good : Welsh Mawn, Old Irish Muan (Personal name), Manx Meein Kind
But Ger-mani = Good neighbour, is not historically corect for Kelts people !!!!!!

to Resume
If Germani is Germanic word = Spear-man = i ve no reference about Germani = Spear-man, except maybe Eburon tribe when they defeated a roman legion
If Germani is Celtic word = Howler-man 
 
what do you think ?


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