Re: Musical instruments and music in Proto-Indo-European

From: C. Darwin Goranson
Message: 48774
Date: 2007-05-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2007-05-28 21:35, C. Darwin Goranson wrote:
>
> > It may be a wild goose chase, but if the Finnish form is close to
an
> > original *kan-tlo- (<PreFinnish kant&le ?), then perhaps there
was an
> > assimilation process in the Baltic words where *kantlos <
*kanklos,
> > the word would be at least Indo-European in formation: kan- (to
sing)
> > + -tlo(m) (thing which does VERB), i.e. kan-tlo- (thing that
sings) -
> > perhaps with a feminine *eh2 ending (what would that produce in
> > Baltic languages???).
>
> I'd be VERY surprised if the word turned out to be anything else
than
> Indo-European *kán-tlom, femininised in Baltic and borrowed into
Finnic before the regular change of *-tl- > -kl-, IF from Proto-Baltic

Does this mean that the root could be possibly dated back to Indo-
European?

To add to this: I was reading "Früh-, Mittel- und Spätindogermanisch (
1994), and came across a relevant article by Witold
Stefan'sky, "Ueber die Entstehung der thematischen Neutra im
Indogermanischen" (On the emergence of thematic neutrals in Indo-
European). Among his list of thematic neutrals in the "youngest
layer" is listed (my translation):

ROOT + tl/k(^u)l? + -om, e.g. Lat. po:-cul-um < peh3-k(^u)l-om
(?) "cup", Lith. a'r-kl-as "plow", < h2rh3-k(^u)l-om(?), i`r-kl-
as "rudder" < *h1rh1-k(^u)l-om(?); are we dealing with two different
suffixes or with phonetic variants?"

If it's the case that the Latin represents an attestation of a
parallel root, the Georgian word "kankula" could either be a bizarre
coincidence or a strikingly pristine cognate to a reconstructed *kan-
k^wl-eh2. However, I'm going to need to look into where this Georgian
word was found - I'm having some trouble locating it online, even
when using the Mxedruli alphabet...