Re: [tied] Re: Musical instruments and music in Proto-Indo-European

On 2007-05-28 21:35, C. Darwin Goranson wrote:

> It may be a wild goose chase, but if the Finnish form is close to an
> original *kan-tlo- (<PreFinnish kant&le ?), then perhaps there was an
> assimilation process in the Baltic words where *kantlos < *kanklos,
> the word would be at least Indo-European in formation: kan- (to sing)
> + -tlo(m) (thing which does VERB), i.e. kan-tlo- (thing that sings) -
> perhaps with a feminine *eh2 ending (what would that produce in
> Baltic languages???).

I'd be VERY surprised if the word turned out to be anything else than
Indo-European *kán-tlom, femininised in Baltic and borrowed into Finnic,
whence the regular Baltic -kl- for *-tl-.

> Russian "gusli" could only fit with the Baltic-Finnic forms if one
> permits a LOT of sound changes.

This is an inner Slavic derivative from *goNd-oN 'play music' (inf.
goNsti, etc.), perhaps the same root, but with a nasal infix, as in
Lith. gaudz^iu`, gau~sti. *goNsli is a fem.pl., the sg. being *goNslI;
the suffix *-slI developed in derivatives of verbs with a final dental,
presumably as one of the Slavic transformations of the instrumental
suffix *-tlo-.

Piotr