Re: Germanic KW

From: tgpedersen
Message: 48748
Date: 2007-05-28

> > > One funny thing about PGmc. labiovelars is that they tend to
> > > lose their labiality next to root-internal apophonic *o, as in
> > > *gWolbHo- > *kalBa-, *dHogWHo- > *ðaGa- or *kWol(h1)so- >
> > > *xalsa-. That doesn't seem to work with *warma-, so perhaps it
> > > reflects *gWHermo- (as in Gk., Arm. and Alb.) with a coloured
> > > vowel.
> >
> > There is something about the "neck" etymologies that
> > worry me.
> >
> > PGerm. *xalsa- "neck"
> > Lat. collus/collum "neck"
> > Lith. kãklas "neck"
> > (Gk. kúklos "wheel")
> > Estonian kael, -a "neck"
>
> > Why the o-grade?
> > Does the un-IE reduplication in the nominal stem *kWekWol- make
> > *kWel- non-IE?
> > How does the Estonian root fit in?
>
> I don't agree with that derivation for neck from
> *kWel+ ('calf' may be the result of another root or
> mixing, also).
>
> I think that PIE *kaltlos kl,tl(e)+ 'pole/pedestal
> used to raise something' came to mean 'neck' (as, for
> example, using 'pot' for 'head').

That root is new to me.


> There's dissimilation in some branches (l>0 or l>n)
> and t>s between l_l (sim. to *pYuLtLos 'very small
> (child/animal) > L pusillus 'very small' but
> analogical (with *pYutLos > pullus) putillus
> 'nestling').

Does the first l (why do you write L?) occur in actual words?


Torsten