Res: [tied] Re: Visigothic kings - Gothic names

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 48676
Date: 2007-05-21

Thank you very much!

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 21 de Maio de 2007 14:32:51
Assunto: [tied] Re: Visigothic kings - Gothic names



--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@.. .>
wrote:

> Where I can find the original Gothic spellings of the Visigothic
> Iberic kings?

The following is a tentative reconstruction of the Gothic forms of
the names of the Visigothic kings proposed by one "ualarauans" on
the GOTHIC-L at

http://tinyurl. com/2hjcuz

(Note: This is to be compared with the list of Gothic names compiled
by Gerhard Köbler and available at

http://tinyurl. com/2lqele .)

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Hails Rydwlf,

--- In [log in to unmask], Rydwlf <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> If you are interested in the names of the Visigothic kings in
> Spain (here we refer to them as simply "the Gothic Kings", "los
> Reyes Godos"), here you have the list (from
>
> http://es.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Lista_de_ los_reyes_ godos )
>
> with the Spanish names:

Thanks a lot for the list! I've risked a "back-translation" of the
names into Gothic which I'm humbly submitting to your inspection
now, though I realize this is far not the first, still less the
best, attempt to do it. Most of the names seem pretty transparent,
yet there are some which remain unclear (to me). I'd greatly
appreciate your corrections.

1. Reyes Visigodos (Visigothic Kings) // Wisugutane reiks (let them
be reiks pl., not þiudanos, OK :-)

Fritigerno - 369-380 // Friþugairns, spoken Friþigairns (maybe it
was just a nickname, "peace-lover" ?)
Atanarico - ¿?-381 // Aþanareiks
Alarico I - 395-410 // Alareiks sa fruma

2. Reino arriano de Tolosa (Arian kingdom of Toulouse) // Reiki þata
arianisko in Tulosai

Ataúlfo - 410-415 // Aþawulfs
Sigérico – 415 // Sigireiks
Walia - 415-418 // Walja (from the word waljan "to choose"?)
Teodorico I - 418-451 // Þiudareiks sa fruma
Turismundo - 451-453 // Þaurismundus (goleiþ unsarana Kunjareþ :-)
Teodorico II - 453-466 // Þiudareiks sa anþar
Eurico - 466-484 // Aiwareiks
Alarico II - 484-507 // Alareiks sa anþar

3. Reino arriano de Toledo (Arian kingdom of Toledo) // Reiki þata
arianisko in Tuleton

Gesaleico - 507-511 // Gaizalaiks (if so, why different reflexes of
the same diphthong?)
Amalarico - 511-531 // Amalareiks
Teudis - 531-548 // Þiuda M.-an? (the ending is unclear)
Teudiselo - 548-549 // Þiudisels? (þiuda + sels, right?)
Agila I - 549-551 // Agila sa fruma
Atanagildo - 551-567 // Aþanagilds (or maybe –gildus M.-u?)
Liuva I - 567-572 // Liuba sa fruma (he must have been popular, eh?)
Leovigildo - 572-586 // Liubigilds

4. Reino católico de Toledo (Catholic kingdom of Toledo) // Reiki
þata kaþulikeino (þatist rumonisko) in Tuleton
Recaredo - 586-601 // Reikareþs (should be Reikireþs)
Liuva II - 601-603 // Liuba sa anþar
Witerico - 603-610 // Witjareiks, later *Witireiks
Gundemaro - 610-612 // Gunþimers (in Gothic, but the phonetic
shaping is clearly West-Germanic)
Sisebuto - 612-621 // Sisjabots? (*sisja- "incantation" + smth of
botjan?)
Recaredo II – 621 // Reikareþs sa anþar
Suintila - 621-631 // Swinþila
Sisenando - 631-636 // Sisjananþs
Chintila - 636-639 // ??? Kintila ("little penny"?)
Tulga - 639-642 // Tulga (from tulgus "firm"? Then why not *Tulgja?)
Chindasvinto - 642-653 // Kindaswinþs (probably better Kindiswinþs?)
Recesvinto - 653-672 // Reikiswinþs
Wamba - 672-680 // Wamba (a nice name!)
Ervigio - 680-687 // ??? (no idea)
Égica - 687-700 // Agika (with an i-umlaut?)
Witiza - 700-710 // Witika? (what is this /z/?)
Rodrigo - 710-711 // Hroþareiks

5. End of the Kingdom // Andeis þis reikjis

Agila II - 710-714, reigned in Tarraconensis and Septimania //
*Agila sa anþar saei raginoda Tarrakunjam jah Saiptimanjam (was
kindins Tarrakunjis jah Sibundalandis)
Ardón - 714-720, reigned in Septimania // ??? (smth with hardu-?)

6. "Doubtful" Kings // Galiugareiks

Iudila - 631-632, reigned over some southern parts of the kingdom //
*Iuþila saei raginoda sunþa reikjis
Paulo - 673, reigned Septimania and some parts of Tarraconensis //
Pawlus
Suniefredo - 692-693 // *Sunjafriþus

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Regards,
Francesco



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