Re: [tied] Re: Visigothic kings - Gothic names

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 48675
Date: 2007-05-21

I remember being told in History of the Spanish
Language that Wamba meant "belly", Spanish "barrigón"

--- Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes"
> <josimo70@...>
> wrote:
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> > Where I can find the original Gothic spellings of
> the Visigothic
> > Iberic kings?
>
> The following is a tentative reconstruction of the
> Gothic forms of
> the names of the Visigothic kings proposed by one
> "ualarauans" on
> the GOTHIC-L at
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> http://tinyurl.com/2hjcuz
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> (Note: This is to be compared with the list of
> Gothic names compiled
> by Gerhard Köbler and available at
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2lqele .)
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> --------------START FORWARDED
> MESSAGE------------------------
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> Hails Rydwlf,
>
> --- In [log in to unmask], Rydwlf <[log in to
> unmask]> wrote:
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> > If you are interested in the names of the
> Visigothic kings in
> > Spain (here we refer to them as simply "the Gothic
> Kings", "los
> > Reyes Godos"), here you have the list (from
> >
> >
>
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_los_reyes_godos
> )
> >
> > with the Spanish names:
>
> Thanks a lot for the list! I've risked a
> "back-translation" of the
> names into Gothic which I'm humbly submitting to
> your inspection
> now, though I realize this is far not the first,
> still less the
> best, attempt to do it. Most of the names seem
> pretty transparent,
> yet there are some which remain unclear (to me). I'd
> greatly
> appreciate your corrections.
>
> 1. Reyes Visigodos (Visigothic Kings) // Wisugutane
> reiks (let them
> be reiks pl., not þiudanos, OK :-)
>
> Fritigerno - 369-380 // Friþugairns, spoken
> Friþigairns (maybe it
> was just a nickname, "peace-lover"?)
> Atanarico - ¿?-381 // Aþanareiks
> Alarico I - 395-410 // Alareiks sa fruma
>
> 2. Reino arriano de Tolosa (Arian kingdom of
> Toulouse) // Reiki þata
> arianisko in Tulosai
>
> Ataúlfo - 410-415 // Aþawulfs
> Sigérico – 415 // Sigireiks
> Walia - 415-418 // Walja (from the word waljan "to
> choose"?)
> Teodorico I - 418-451 // Þiudareiks sa fruma
> Turismundo - 451-453 // Þaurismundus (goleiþ
> unsarana Kunjareþ :-)
> Teodorico II - 453-466 // Þiudareiks sa anþar
> Eurico - 466-484 // Aiwareiks
> Alarico II - 484-507 // Alareiks sa anþar
>
> 3. Reino arriano de Toledo (Arian kingdom of Toledo)
> // Reiki þata
> arianisko in Tuleton
>
> Gesaleico - 507-511 // Gaizalaiks (if so, why
> different reflexes of
> the same diphthong?)
> Amalarico - 511-531 // Amalareiks
> Teudis - 531-548 // Þiuda M.-an? (the ending is
> unclear)
> Teudiselo - 548-549 // Þiudisels? (þiuda + sels,
> right?)
> Agila I - 549-551 // Agila sa fruma
> Atanagildo - 551-567 // Aþanagilds (or maybe –gildus
> M.-u?)
> Liuva I - 567-572 // Liuba sa fruma (he must have
> been popular, eh?)
> Leovigildo - 572-586 // Liubigilds
>
> 4. Reino católico de Toledo (Catholic kingdom of
> Toledo) // Reiki
> þata kaþulikeino (þatist rumonisko) in Tuleton
> Recaredo - 586-601 // Reikareþs (should be
> Reikireþs)
> Liuva II - 601-603 // Liuba sa anþar
> Witerico - 603-610 // Witjareiks, later *Witireiks
> Gundemaro - 610-612 // Gunþimers (in Gothic, but the
> phonetic
> shaping is clearly West-Germanic)
> Sisebuto - 612-621 // Sisjabots? (*sisja-
> "incantation" + smth of
> botjan?)
> Recaredo II – 621 // Reikareþs sa anþar
> Suintila - 621-631 // Swinþila
> Sisenando - 631-636 // Sisjananþs
> Chintila - 636-639 // ??? Kintila ("little penny"?)
> Tulga - 639-642 // Tulga (from tulgus "firm"? Then
> why not *Tulgja?)
> Chindasvinto - 642-653 // Kindaswinþs (probably
> better Kindiswinþs?)
> Recesvinto - 653-672 // Reikiswinþs
> Wamba - 672-680 // Wamba (a nice name!)
> Ervigio - 680-687 // ??? (no idea)
> Égica - 687-700 // Agika (with an i-umlaut?)
> Witiza - 700-710 // Witika? (what is this /z/?)
> Rodrigo - 710-711 // Hroþareiks
>
> 5. End of the Kingdom // Andeis þis reikjis
>
> Agila II - 710-714, reigned in Tarraconensis and
> Septimania //
> *Agila sa anþar saei raginoda Tarrakunjam jah
> Saiptimanjam (was
> kindins Tarrakunjis jah Sibundalandis)
> Ardón - 714-720, reigned in Septimania // ??? (smth
> with hardu-?)
>
> 6. "Doubtful" Kings // Galiugareiks
>
> Iudila - 631-632, reigned over some southern parts
> of the kingdom //
> *Iuþila saei raginoda sunþa reikjis
> Paulo - 673, reigned Septimania and some parts of
> Tarraconensis //
> Pawlus
> Suniefredo - 692-693 // *Sunjafriþus
>
> --------END FORWARDED MESSAGE----------------
>
> Regards,
> Francesco
>
>
>




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