[tied] Re: Latin is a q-Dialect having p- from kW , PIE is simil

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> Incidentally, I have checked <cóic> in Thurneyssen's OIr. grammar

and in

> _IE Numerals_ (David Green in the latter just refers the reader to
> Thurneyssen's exhaustive discussion of the problem). In a nutshell: the
> word is problematic in that it reflects a long *o: that normally can't
> go back to PCelt. *on before *k(W) (an additional complication is the
> discrepancy between <cóic> and its compositional allomorph with a true
> diphthong rather than a long vowel, but that part is not directly
> relevant, so I'll skip it). While no solution seems to satisfy

everyone,

> Thurneyssen's optimal guess is that PCelt. *kWénkWe first developed
> (regularly) into *kWe:gW- and only then did the long *e: undergo
> rounding in the labiovelar environment, eventually yielding <cóic>
> rather than *céic.

But other PIE words with *e that never change to long vowels are
also rounded after kW, gW, or b. It seems to me that before o>u or
eN>e: in certain positions e>o (possibly regularly if both the
preceding and following C matter, but possibly just sporadic) after KW
etc.