Re: Pre-Germanic p

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
>
> > After Romanian kw > k/p 'duality' another similar and unexplained
> > situation is that one of "pre-germanic p" originated in PIE *kW
>
> > So we have kw/p alternance spreaded in : Celtic, Italic, Germanic,
> > Balkans (Romania)....as I said this duality kw/p need a 'global'
> > explanation.
>
> The best explanation I've seen is the postulation of *pW. See
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/9530 and
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/14885 et seq.
>
> I don't believe there is any problem in Celtic or pre-Romance Italic -
> the development was pretty regular. The basic point in these
> languages is that a change of the type kw > p is always possible.
>

Hans Kuhn: Das letzte Indogermanisch has the following Germanic doublets:
"
kriechen und nd. krupen,
[Pok. *gr-eu- + -g / + -b, Balt., Germ.]
streichen und streifen,
[Pok. *str-ei- + -g / + -b, Celt., Balt. Germ.]
tauchen und taufen,
[Pok. ?, *dheu-b-, Gr., Celt., Balt., Germ.]
nd. Siek und Siepen "feuchte Bodensenke",
[Pok. *seikW- *seip-, Skt., Ital. Celt. Balt. Germ.]
engl. shrink und hd. schrumpfen,
[Pok. ?, *skerb(h)-, *skreb(h)-, Gr., Ital., Balt., Germ.)
Strunk und Strumpf,
[Pok. *strenk *streng-, ?, Gr., Celt. Germ.]
got. *auhns/ altschw. ugn und dt. Ofen,
an. ylgr "Wölfin" und ulfr ,Wolf,
dt. leihen und bleiben
"

Odd geographical distribution, if it's caused by a PIE morpheme and
not substrate.


Torsten