Re: PIE *akWa: 'water'

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 48535
Date: 2007-05-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

> > Nothing 'is sporadic' in Romanian, only some cases are not well
> > explained yet, most of them due to this 'simple model':
> >
> > Let's try to derived them 'easily from Latin'
> >
> > and this 'EASYLY TO DERIVE FROM LATIN' MODEL (still asserted also
> in
> > this forum, by some) arrived till such monstruosities like the
two
> > below ones :
> >
> > codru < *quodrum < quadrum
> > patru < quattuor
> >
> >
> > Marius
> >
>
> You can find both at :
>
> http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=codru
> http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=patru
>
> in the best dictionary that exist for Romanian today (DEX - made by
> Romanian Academy)
>
> Marius
>

See below the full list of samples:

kw- > k
---------
ca < quam http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=ca
c~a < quod http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=c~a
care < qualis http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=care
c^and < quando http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=c^and
c^at < quantus http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=c^at
(contaminated with Lat. quotus and cata ) :)
^inc~a < unquam http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=^inc~a
cum < quomo[do] http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=cum
codru < *quodrum < quadrum http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=codru
scam~a < squama at http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=scam~a
(unknown etymology cf. Lat. squama)

kw- > p
---------
apa < aqua http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=ap~a
iapa < equa http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=iap~a
patru < quattuor http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=patru
p~aresimi < quadragesima http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=p~aresimi

Because
-------
a. p~aresimi -> can well follows patru
b. apa 'water' -> can well be inherited from PIE h2ep-
(Apus, Sal-apia, Zald-apa)

c. iap~a 'mare' -> is closed to Albanian pelë 'id.' < *epo:ula:
(final -la(:) being lost in Romanian: see Rom. stea 'star')

Remain ONLY patru as a strong evidence of kw- > p-

1. patru -> Latin quattuor (Alb. katër) => Latin and Albanian having
an a

Marius