--- Sean Whalen <stlatos@... com> wrote:
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--- "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@... com.br> wrote:
> Greek silphe:/tilphe: (akin to Latin talpa "mole"?)
Yes, they are related. Also Welsh chwil 'beetle',
chwiler 'maggot', Gaelic fiolan / fiolar 'earwig'
all from:
* tul-x-pó+(n.) + <
* tw(e)l-x-fwó+ derived from
* twèlxáf 'swelling' > Greek sélas
This would have to be a late PIE word that is
derived from an already derived noun (that is, *
tw(e)l-x-fwó+ instead of **tw(e)l-x-wó + from the verb
root), also shown by the restoration of banned
clusters like fw (no KWw- or Pw- previously).
This secondary cluster was also lost, with fw- > p-
but the existence of the fricative is seen in:
* tw(e)l-x-fwó+ > * tul-x-pón.+
* kY(e)r-x-fwó+ > * kY(e)r-x-frón. + 'hornet'
* xY(e)rudhwó+ > * xYrudhró+ 'red'
(as other colors in -wó+) which indicate rules of
assimilation at a distance:
w>r / r () P_
w>r / r () uC_
And of course * kY(e)r-x-frón. + also comes from a
noun of the same type:
*kYèrxáf 'extension > horn, head, etc.'
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Added:
I've found more evidence for the above. The
feminine of 'hornet' undergoes unique assimilation
(a:x-a:x) before the change w>r.
kYar-xa-fwá+ .... kYar-xa-fwá:x
kYar-xa-fwá+ .... kYa:-xa-fwá:x
kY(a)r-x-fwá+ ... kYa:-x-fwá:x
kY(a)r-x-fwá+ ... kYa:x-fwá:x
kY(e)r-x-fwó+ ... kYe:x-fwó:x
kY(e)r-x-fró+ ... kYa:x-fwá:x
kY(e)r-x-fró+ ... kYa:x-pá:x
Then fem. * kYa:x-pá:x > Greek ke:phé:n 'drone'
(with p>ph after x as sílphe: and ana -n as the
masculine * kY(e)r-x-fró: n.).
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