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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@...>
wrote:
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>
>
> Dear List,
>
> Due to some mysterious reason, Nicholas Wade's NYT article on
> Eruscan origins, whose link I had posted this morning, can now
only
> be accessed after registering (for free) for NYTimes.com. Yet I
had
> accessed it directly just a couple hours ago!
>
> For the benefit of those who don't want to get registered to read
> the article, I paste here the plain text of the same. Mind,
however,
> that the NYT online article also includes some interesting genetic
> maps that cannot be reproduced here.
>
But
https://ep.eur.nl/bitstream/1765/7686/1/Woudhuizen+bw.pdf
(beware, takes long time to load while seemingly nothing happening)
uses archaeological evidence to link Proto-Villanovan and Villanovan
(try searching for those terms) to the Urnfield culture of (oh
horror!) Thuringia and Southern Scandinavia, the same place where
all these names in -ste- also appears, which Kuhn mentions
(he misses Andst near Seest near Kolding in southern Jutland,
perhaps Gesten, if his theory is true that -sten, -steen, -stein
names are reinterpreted -st names; interesting for me, I always
wondered what Thor needed that stone for, and there is an old side
form Tosti occurring also in -thorp placenames (Carolingian times),
but not in -lev (-löv, -leben) placenames (early first millenium)).
Woodhuizen has Adrastos (Phrygian(?), Linear B), Orestes (descendant
of Pelops, an Anatolian), realm of Acestes, and Segesta (where the
population consists of kinsmen from Troy), Segestazie (from that
town, cf. Etruscan Karthazie "of the Carthaginians"), Aulestis.
Torsten