Re: [tied] *ud- 'out'

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 48075
Date: 2007-03-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> > <stlatos@> wrote:
>
> > > Since d/t regularly become z/s before stops in
> > most
> > > IE languages I don't think any *-s suffix is
> > needed.
>
> > As one can see from Greek huster 'womb' and hustros
> > 'stomach' and
> > from Toch B wästarye `liver', as well as from
> > Albanian
> > cullë 'stomach', both *ud- and *uds- take part in
> > 'stomach' words.
>
> Whatever you may believe about Albanian, it's
> certain that t>s before stops in many IE languages.
> The proto-form has to be based on the outcomes, but
> the existence of s in them doesn't guarantee that s
> existed in the proto-form.
>
> The cluster dtr was simplified to dr in many
> languages and the irregular paradigm split in meaning:
>
> u_dtèró+s u_dtr(e)+ 'outer, sticking out, belly'
>
> u_dtèryó+s u_dtri+ 'in the belly, internal organ'
>
> so:
>
> u_dtèró+s u_dtr(e)+ > u_ttèró+s u_dr(e)+ >
>
> u_ttèró+s u_ttr(e)+ & u_dèró+s u_dr(e)+
>
> each new paradigm with a particular meaning.
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I have nothing to think or to believe except the very simple rule:
in a cluster of two stops, the first one is lost: *nokW-t- >
natë 'night', *septm. > shtatë 'seven', *sek-ti > shat 'hoe'.

Konushevci