Re: Res: [tied] Etymology of Rome - h1romh-eh2 again

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...>
wrote:

>


> Here are some pronunciations given in a book I had as a child:
>
> Allosaurus: AL-lo-sawr-us
> Ammonites: AM-mon-ites
> amphibian: am-FIB-EE-AN
> Ankylosaurus: an-KYLE-o-sawr-us
> Archaeopteryx: ark-y-OP-ter-iks
> Archelon: AR-kel-on
> Birkenia: bir-KEEN-y-a
> Brachiosaurus: BRAKE-ee-o-sawr-us
> Brontosaurus: BRON-to-sawr-us
>
> At the very least it demonstrates that syllabification using the

onset

> principle is not a major principle in conveying the pronnication of
> English words. (Similarly, syllable boundaries play a minor role

in

> English hyphenation rules.)
>
> Notice that the <a> in <amount>, <amaze> and <amount> is

unstressed.

>
> So, for some VC.V examples with /m/, try:
>
> amateur /"æm.&.tS&/
> hammer /"hæm.&/
> emery /"em.&.ri/
>
> Now you might try arguing that the /m/ belongs to both syllables,

but

> it is not a geminate in the way that <penknife> /pen.naif/ has a
> double consonant.
>
> If you try to analyse <singer> /"siN.&/ as having a geminate, you

then

> have to explain why English speakers have great difficulty

with /N/ as

> a word initial consonant. Certainly a syllabification /"si.N&/
> predicts a lack of difficulty. Indeed, one former(?) native
> English-speaking member of this list did syllabify the

word /"si.N&/ -

> and he had no difficulty with initial /N/ in foreign words.
>
> Richard.

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I think that syllabe structure is a language specific, for each
language defines its own syllable structure.
Lets see, for example, Alb kod.ër 'hill' (undefinite form), but
ko.dra (definite), making the /o/ much more open and more stressed.
In closed syllable, where C=d, N=o is more dark and little
stressed, till in open syllabe ko.dra, where C=d becomes part of the
onset cluster dr-, the /o/ gets different quality.
Same result we found in vet.ull 'eyebrow' (undefinite form), but
ve.tlla (defininte), where we have an open syllable with more open
and stressed /o/.
So, as a rule, we could deduce that iin Wd > RONC.NC (word), R
(rhyme), O (onset), N (nucleus), C (coda), we have closed syllable
with darker and less stressed vowel, but in Wd with syllable
structure RON.ONC we have open syllable with open vowel and more
strossed vowel. But, this rule seems regular only if C in last
syllabe is liquid (r, ll) or nasal
pjep.ën/pjepër 'melon'(undefinite), but pje.pni/pjepri etc.

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