[tied] Re: PIE laringeals

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@> wrote:
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> > One might care to claim that this sign was the Akkadian symbol for
> > glottal stop! It's the same character as used for ax/ix/ux in
> > Hittite.

> I've now identified it with the help of
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_cuneiform - it's U+12134
> CUNEIFORM SIGN HI TIMES NUN. There's an interesting remark in the
> Wiki page about U+1202A CUNEIFORM SIGN ALEPH - 'late variant of AH'.
> (I've dropped the diacritic on the 'H'.)

Further digging has muddied the waters further. While 'The Worlds
Writing Systems' used a Neo-Assyrian CUNEIFORM SIGN HI TIMES NUN when
citing Hittite spelling, the web page at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittite_cuneiform and the font it uses
use U+1202A CUNEIFORM SIGN ALEPH. The shape is close to the one given
in Held 1988 and seems to correspond to the the Neo-Babylonian form in
the 'Labat charts' for Old Borger sign 397 'glottal stop'. The
Neo-Assyrian form is not such a close match.

So, Etherman23 was wrong and possibly right. Akkadian cuneiform does
have a glottal stop symbol, and it's exactly what was used for what is
transliterated as -ah- in Hittite!

Richard.