Re: On the origin of the Etruscans

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@>
> wrote:
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> >
> >
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> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "C. Darwin Goranson"
> > <cdog_squirrel@> wrote:
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> > > I really like the idea of the Etruscans being Indo-European in
> > > origin, or at least closely related to the Indo-Europeans. If
> > > indeed their language is an offshoot of an Anatolian one...
> >
> > Sorry, there appears to be a misunderstaing here; that was
> > originated by my unhappy choice of the term "Anatolian" in the
> > opening sentence of my post archived at
> >
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/47547
> >
> > I had written:
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> > "The theory about the Anatolian origin of the Etruscan people

*and*

> > language appears to have been strengthened by a new genetic

study of

> > cattle in the Tuscan region."
> >
> > The term "Anatolian" is used in my note in a geographical, not

in a

> > linguistic sense; in fact, I wanted to refer to Beekes'

hypothesis

> > that the homeland of the Tyrsenoi (= Etruscans) lay in

northwestern

> > Anatolia, just south of the Sea of Marmara.
> >
> > Beekes' booklet, available as a PDF at
> >
> > http://www.knaw.nl/publicaties/pdf/20021051.pdf ,
> >
> > is really worth reading for anyone interested in the problem of

the

> > Etruscan origins (and also that of the origin of the Etruscan
> > language). However, he doesn't maintain that the Tyrsenoi spoke

an

> > IE-related language. He thinks that they lived in close

proximity to

> > the (IE-speaking) Lydians, though. Please read the paper, that's
> > so much interesting!
> >
>
>
> So now it's getting respectable to claim that the Trojans spoke
> Etruscan and that Aeneas flight to Italy reflects some actual event
> (Beekes doesn't mention the fact that Rome began as an Etruscan

city).

> Maybe one day one can look for Etruscan traces where historians
> claimed they fled without getting jumped.
>
>
> Torsten
>

Considering the jumble of historical nuggets sent through the food
processor with lots of fiction, the idea that there really
were "Aeneas-people" emigrating to Rome is not entirely implausible,
with the whole jumble re-interpreted from an Italic-based
sensibility which moved down Italy from the North.