Re: [tied] Re: PIE i- and u-stems again

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 47513
Date: 2007-02-16

On 2007-02-16 18:09, mcarrasquer wrote:

> No because you do _not_ get the same result. Adding -n to the
> thematic vowel would result in a paradigm:
> +kato-n-s
> +kato-n-m
> +kato-n-Vs
> +kato-n-ei
> etc.
> Instead of what it actually is:
> *kat-h3o:n
> *kat-h3on-m
> *kat-h3(e)n-os
> *kat-h3(e)n-ei
> (or something along those lines)

The Hoffmann "suffix" functions more like a compound member, its
addition to a _thematic_ stem results in something like
*-o-h3o:n/*-o-h3n-os. There is also a similar type of derivative
(presumably archaic), found e.g. in various group-nouns, with the
thematic vowel replaced by *-i- (hence Gmc. *-i:n- and *-jo:n- stems).
Note also feminines in *-o-h3n-íh2 like Ved. Indra:n.í: (Olsen's analysis).

Actually, however, the "Cato type", which is deadjectival and probably
distinct from the Hoffmann formation (though often merging with it in
the IE branches), may go back to *katV-h1-o:n/*katV-h1-n-os (the
thematic vowel should in theory have been *e, but the analogical
restoration of *o would not be surprising). After the disappearance of
*h1 we get *kato::(n), *kato:nos. The above is my guess and I'm not sure
if Birgit Olsen would analyse this formation in exactly the same way.