Re: [tied] Re: From words to dates: Water into wine, mathemagic or

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

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> Not sure I understand "no satisfactory
> explanation".
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> If we suppose that most of Europe was speaking IE
> languages (with a few holdouts from earlier
> immigration like Basque) originating through the
> spread of agriculture from Anatolia, why is that not
> "satisfactory"?

****GK: "The spread of agriculture from Anatolia"
cannot adequately explain the Indo-Europeanization of
many areas of Europe in the accepted time frames.
There was an article by Novak in Antiquity few years
ago which showed that the hunters/gatherers of Poland
switched to agriculture (ca. 3800 BCE)as the basis of
their economy without adopting the culture of their
southern neighbours (scions of the purported
"Anatolian waves"). Which also has linguistic
implications.But even more important: the northernmost
agricultural culture stemming from the Anatolian
influence (Trypilia) had no decisive genetic or
cultural influence on the development of its eastern
and northern neighbours. Quite the reverse, especially
after 3500 BCE. Which suggests that if Trypilia was
IE, Dnipro=Donetsk and Serednyj Stih (whence the later
"Kurgan" cultures, and eventually the Balto-Slavs and
Indo-Iranians) were not.For more specifics, consult
the archives of late 2001 and into 2002.****

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