>If it is sedentary then how did it spread languages? How did they get
> --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
> > Here is our previous exchange on this issue. There
> > is no evidence of
> > pastoral nomadism on the steppes in the time perios
> > you are looking
> > for. I have posted expert opinion on this before.
> > I would be happy
> > to do it again.
> > You might as well forget of horse riding pastoral
> > nomads. The other
> > line of thinking Tortsen is taking has a better
> > chance of succeding.
> > Agriculture could be responsible for the expansion
> > from the steppes
> > not horseback nomadism
> > M. Kelkar
> ****GK: You're the one who keeps bringing up "pastoral
> nomadism", not I. There is a difference between that
> and "pastoralism" (which merely implies an economy
> primarily based on the nurture of various animal
> domesticates). "Pastoralism" can be as sedentary as
> agriculturalism, and indeed is frequently associated
> with it.****
> >None of these cultures can be identified with a language.
> > "GK: Serednyj Stih (ca. 4200-3500 BC) was
> > > antecedent to Yamna, and was ancestral to the
> > latter
> > > as well as to other "Corded Ware" cultures. It was
> > a
> > > pastoral (though not exclusively so) culture, not
> > a
> > > classical "nomadic" culture
> ****GK: Not clear enough? There are no known nomadic
> pastoralists here before the Cimmerians.****
> The spread of "Corded
> > > Ware" to northern and central Europe preceded the
> > > emergence of Yamna. "Corded Ware" had infiltrated
> > > Trypilia (from its Serednyj Stih base) and was
> > already
> > > present as far west as the current
> > Polish-Ukrainian
> > > border even before the disappearance of Funnel
> > Beaker.
> > > Globular Amphorae bypassed this initial CW
> > presence as
> > > it marched eastward against the Trypilians. Within
> > a
> > > few hundred years everything in this large area
> > became
> > > "Corded Ware". Yamna (ca. 3500-2800 BC) was a late
> > > eastern variant of "Corded Ware".
> > "It is known though that the tribes that later
> > formed the Trypillia
> > culture must have migrated from the territories of
> > what today are
> > Rumania and Hungary, and settled in the territory of
> > the present-day
> > Ukraine in about the sixth millennium BC. We have no
> > clear evidence as
> > to what language they spoke (Dovzhenko, 2005 ?)"
> ****GK: Probably one akin to that of preceding
> agricultural cultures. They were subsequently absorbed
> by the peoples of the original CW areas.****
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