[tied] Re: Fun with prenasalized stops.txt

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@...>
wrote:

>
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:38:28 -0000, "tgpedersen"
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jens Elmegård Rasmussen <elme@> wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Now, if this NVAsgDu *-nW was true, the condition that the
> >> > o-variant of the thematic vowel appears before voiced consonant
> >> > could be strengthened to 'before nasal', except for the
> >> > troublesome Nsgm *-os. Jens has proposed that it was actually
> >> > *-oz, with a unique /z/, but how about *-oNs?
> >>
> >> There would still be -o- before /y/ in the pronominal nom.pl.
> >> *tóy and the optative *bhéro-yH1-t, and before /d/ in the neuter
> >> *tód.
> >> Also, pronominal adverbs show *-o-dhi, *-o-bhi and *-o-r. We also
> >> seem to have *-o- in the 1.du. *-o-we.
> >
> >
> >The latter would be *-o-nWe in that case. *toy and *tod are
> >composite, made up of *t- and *-oy and *-od
>
> So what about *id, *k^id, *kWid (NAS n.sg.), respectively
> *ey(-es), *k^ei(-es), *kWei(-es) (N m.pl.)?

One of the hard things to explain in the relatives and interrogatives
is the dual stem vowel, *e/o and *i/y. How about this: each components
brings his own?

So it's *Ø-id, *k^-id, *kW-id, and
*e-y(es), *k^e-y(es), *kWe-y(es)
*to-i, *to-id(?), *kWo-id(?).

Hm. I don't like those in *-d.
Let's make them
*kWe-Nd -> *kWid
*to-Nd -> *toNd -> *tod
*kWo-Nd -> *kWoNd -> *kWod

And then some rules to determine which side wins the place of the vowel.


Torsten