Re: [tied] Re: Balto-Slavic C-stems / long vowel endings

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 47178
Date: 2007-01-29

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:53:30 +0100 (CET), Mate Kapović
<mkapovic@...> wrote:

>On Pon, siječanj 29, 2007 11:20 pm, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal reče:
>> Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering about that. When
>> Ivs^ic''s law causes withdrawal of the stress from a weak
>> yer to the preceding syllable, that syllable receives
>> neo-acute intonation. But what intonation does the next
>> syllable receive when the stress is moved forward from an
>> initial weak yer? Apparently, in Slovak (though not in
>> Czech or Polish) dU``cer- > dcé:r-,
>
>Oh it happens also in Czech and Polish, but dialectally... I think there
>are forms like dcóra in both...
>
>> with lengthening of /e/
>> (neo-acute?). In kc'i^ / hc^i^, the intonation remains
>> falling, but what happens when the newly stressed syllable
>> is not final?
>
>Well, the oblique cases in Croatian are G. kće``ri, D. kće``ri which
>should derive from *d7``kter- so I guess that answers your question.
>
>And it doesn't just occur when the jor is accent, cf. Kajkavian *v7
>ju´´tro > (v) ju^tro.

Does that mean that these are two different soundlaws,
separated in time (1. retraction from weak yer with
neo-acute on preceding syllable; 2. advancement from weak
yer with "neo"-circumflex on next syllable)? Or can they
still be simultaneous (retraction from weak yer with
neo-acute on preceding syllable, if there is one, else
advancement from weak yer without neo-acute on next
syllable)?

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
miguelc@...