george knysh schrieb:
>
> *****GK: Thanks. I've heard of him of course, but
> haven't read any of his work. Perhaps you or someone
> else could translate the Romanian Wikipedia info into
> English? The English article is two lines long...*****
well, it is a bit more here:
http://www.ici.ro/romania/en/stiinta/parvan.html
first of all I have to apologise for the long time I need until I
answer but this task requires plenty of time and I have to translate
it, thing which is not very easy to do.
OK, let us see what we could extract from his book "Getica, a
pre(proto)history of Dacia". I have the edition of 1992 ISBN
5-362-00963-X, Charitas
Part 1/3
the chapter V is called "Getic expansion between 900 and 500 b.c."
It ought maybe to make the mention, Parvan considers the Dacians as
a very ancient iranian stock, so he will tend almost allways to make
comparation with the Iranian tribes.
On the page 138 Parvan begins to speak about the expansion in the
direction I meant, in South and South-West reaching Adriatica.
Parvan calls the material of Carl Patch ("Thrakische Spuren an der
Adria, in Oesterr. Jahreshefte, X 1907, P. 169".
Patch, considering the Thracian and the Dacian are the same people,
does not make any difference between the Thracian infiltrations in
Dalmatia and between properly Dacian migrations on a part in the
region of Singidunum on valley of Sava and on another one, in the
region of Drina toward Salona , one more in the region of Rathieria
in the Timoc valley trough Naissus, on the valley of Drilo, toward
Scodra, Lissus and Dyrrachium.
Parvan considers one has to keep out the Thracians toponims but to
consider just the toponims which should be of Dacian origin. First,
he begins with the tribe of Daoursioi from Dalamtia (Ptolemeus II
16,5; Plinius knows them as "Daorizi" Naturale historia III 22(26)
or known as "Daversii" in the imperial inscriptions (CIL III D.
XXIII) somewhere in the region of Salonta(Müller, map 10&11). This
name should represent his ancient denomination in the time of of
the Scythian-Getic expansion of the VII-VI century b.c.
An impresive fact is finding in Dalmatia , in South-East, not too
far away from Daursioi, one finds the Sardiotai ( Ptolem. l.c.,
Plin. N.h III 32 (26) 142: _Sardiates_ ) and a bit more South-East
of them "pros te Makedonia", one finds the Skirtones (Plin. 143
_Scirtari_). Both these tribes lead us toward East: Sardiotai,
toward Serdica ( see the village "Sardeis" in the neighborhood of
Callatis:CIL III 14214 and Skirtones toward Scirtiana of Macedonia
on the Via Egnatia between Lychnidus and Heraclea (Miller, Itin.
Rom.) Of course in the time of the empire the Sardiotai and the
Skirtones should have been already long time "illyrised" via the
illyrian population they dwelled among (see CIL III p. 1987, D. LXII
"un Dasius, Scirto ex Dalmatia").
As Patch already shows, (p. 173_) even the tribe "Manioi" in the
region of Salon seems to be of Thracian origin and even the name
"Salona" appears to be Thracian. For this speak not only the
arguments brought by Patsch but it appears that the very root of the
word is thracian and this is to find even in Panonian ( Sala).
Waht is very important in this region is the big number of Getic
elements found in the toponimy between Salona ana Apollonia. Thus,
on the way who leads from Narona to Scorda, Tabula Peuntingeriane
lists the stations Asamo, Adzizio and Berzumno (Miller, p. 468)
names which are the same (or almost) with Samus-Asamus, Azizis and
Berzobis found in Banat, Transilvania and the Getic part of actual
Bulgaria. Apparently, even the name Scodra can be found
epigraphically in the "regio Scodrihesis"(CIL VI 2698-see Patsch p.
169), "regio" known to us from Dacia Aureliana. Later, in the same
region where one found the Skirtoners one finds the cities
Termidava and Eiminacium (Ptol. II 16, 7) and this shows the same
migration from Dacian direction from Alutus region (Oltenia), Banat
and Serbia toward the Adriatica. On via Egnatia, in the west of
Scirtiana, of thracian origin is a "Brucida" which was ammeded by
Thomascheck (after Wesseling) in "Brygiada" whose nominative should
be "Brygias" and this should be seen as being connected with the
ancient name of "Brygoi". Parvan believes the name Brucida should be
seen in fact as somehow related tu "Brucla" a city which ends as
Dacian "Genucla" and which has the first part as "Bregedava"( see
Thomascheck II 2, 63) or maybe this is a short form of a "Brucidava".
Fact is, once one is in the east part of Scardus montains, in
Macedonia and Paeonia, the getic reminiscences do not stop but, they
become more abundant.
Livius (XLIV 26, 7) knows for the sec. II b.c. in the region of
"Medes" between Axios ans Strymon, the locality Desudava. Parvan
means there should be read "Deusdava" aka "Dausdava" as in
"daousdava" which is found in the Getic region of Appiarenses in
SouthWest of Durostorum (Ptolem. III 10, 6 -cu maps of Miller 18 and
19).Anyway, regardless how the reading way should be (deus, daus,
desu) the last part is "dava" thus, this is Dacian. In the same
region where is Desudava, a byzanthine excerptator tells us about
the river Sargentias ( see the discussion at Thomascheck II 2 98q).
This name is almost the same as the name of Sargetias about which
tells us Dio Cassius when he speaks about the treasury of Decebalus
(LXVIII 14,4).
--end part 1/3---
Alex