Re: [tied] The idea of the root *h1eg^ ("I", "to speak")

From: C. Darwin Goranson
Message: 46577
Date: 2006-11-13

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-
language@>
> > wrote:
> > > Perhaps the nonconnectibility of *tu- with any root
> > suggesting 'hear' (which we might reasonably expect in the
second
> > person as a counterpart to 'speak(er)' in the first person)
> suggests
> > an alternative explanation.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
> > Or maybe not Patrick, If we will consider PIE *tuH as an Old
loan
> > from another Language where the meaning was really 'to hear':
> >
> > Look at http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/response.cgi?
> > root=config&morpho=0&basename=\data\bush\xamet&first=361:
> >
> > where you will find the Root *tu- as 'to hear'
> >
> > "
> > Proto-!Wi : *t́u
> >
> > Stems : *tu-i
> >
> > Meaning : to hear
> >
> > Bushman etymology :
> >
> > |Xam : ttú, ttúï, tūï, ttóä
> (B.); ttŭ́, ttúï̆ (Ll.)
> >
> > //Ng : tu, tūi
> >
> > #Khomani : tjhu (Mg.)
> >
> > //Kxau : tu
> >
> > Seroa : tu (Wu.)
> >
> > //Xegwi (Batwa) : tūi
> >
> > |Auni : tu, tūi
> >
> > References : Bleek 186, 191, 204, 206, 239, 240.
> > "
> >
> >
> > Maybe only a coincidence but we also have more than one root
> > for 'you' in PIE
> >
> > Marius
> >
>
>
> By the way Patrick : Proto-Bushman 'you' is uH
>
> Proto-Bushman : *uH
>
> Meaning : you
>
> Proto-Taa : *ûh
>
> Proto-!Wi : *u
>
> #Hoan : *u
>
>
> All I can say: "strange enough" :
>
> a) /you/ and /uH/ 'sound similar', isn't it and they have an
> identical meaning
>
> b) Also now based on this /uH/ we also can decomposed PIE *tuH in
PIE
> *t-uH and in the same time
>
> c) we can unified the PIE origin of /you/ & /tu/ based on *uH
>
> Marius

If PIE came from Southeast Africa, then we'd probably have a good
case here. Unfortunately, where is the PIE word for hyena, or
cheetah, or hippo, or rhino, or giraffe?
It's simply a bizarre coincidence, I'm afraid. Try looking closer to
Eurasia, perhaps.