Re: PIE *nr-, *nur-?

From: Aigius
Message: 46554
Date: 2006-11-11

There is another form of Narew - Neura. I think this is misspelling
of Niaura and name comes from Lithuanian word NIAURUS, meaning
MOROSE, DARK. Compare with Latin word AURUM, meaning BRIGHT and with
tribe name Neuroi (from Niauroi, Niaurai?) mentioned by Herodotus.

Regards, Aigius
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@...>
wrote:
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur
> > > "*nur is a Proto-Indo-European root denoting water or river.
> > > As such it is a part of several river and city names in
Europe,
> > > including Narew, Narva and Neretva."
> > >
> > > From another Wikipedia article:
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narew
> > > "[The river] Narew originates in Belarus and flows into the
> > > Vistula river in Poland........The name of the river comes
from
> > > a Proto-Indo-European root *nr primarily associated with water
> > > (compare with Narva, Neretva, Neris, Ner and Nur)."
> > >
> >
> > Another great source of etymological research on the internet
> > is the cybalist group, in the archives of which one might try
> > to find the above river names.
>
> O.K., I have tried:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narew
> "Hydronimic *noru- is especially well attested in Baltic (e.g.
> Prussian Nerus, Nerusa, Polish Narew [a large tributary of the
> Vistula] < Sudovian *naru:-), though it isn't clear to me what
it's
> supposed to mean. Some etymologists connect it with the root *ner-
> 'dive, penetrate'. I wonder if Germanic *naru- 'narrow' might be
> somehow related (although the Narew is a remarkably wide river)."
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/15941
> "...the name Nrowa appears to be related to that of the Narew (a
> major eastern tributary of the Vistula system; the name, Old
Polish
> <Nari> = Nary <-- *Naru:s was borrowed from West Baltic during the
> Middle Ages). There are other *nar(u)- hydronyms in the Baltic
area,
> e.g. lith. Narupe, OPr. Narus. Nrowa < *norwa < *norwa: might very
> well be the same name (only borrowed much earlier) with the
regular
> feminine ending added to *noru-."
>
> Best,
> Francesco
>