Res: Res: Res: [tied] Re: Veps "hebon" (horse) - PIE connection?

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 46397
Date: 2006-10-17

What's the origin of h- in hepon-. I know that in Finno-Ugric, Finnish h- sometimes < FU *s^ (cf. s^iNer>hiiri, "mouse").

----- Mensagem original ----
De: C. Darwin Goranson <cdog_squirrel@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 17 de Outubro de 2006 10:57:26
Assunto: Res: Res: [tied] Re: Veps "hebon" (horse) - PIE connection?

And remember, there's the issue of the "-on" ending. How can that be
explained?
Joao, your non-IE root looks far too close to the PIE root to be
anything but an ancient common term. Moreover, Greek as far as we know
never had a *sippos; though the change from PIE *kW to *p to Vepsian
"b" seems hypothetically possible, especially between two vowels. Even
so, why drag an otherwise unattested non-PIE root into the equation?

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@.. .> wrote:
>
> I know that hippos is < h1ekwos, but I'm still not convinced of it.
Hippos seems to me too irregular, why not *epos or eppos? It seems
like a kind of merge of the IE *ekwos and some non-IE *sikwos or
*sipos, or hippos<*h1ekwos, through some para-Greek IE adstratum.
>
> Joao SL
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> Para: cybalist@... s.com
> Enviadas: Terça-feira, 17 de Outubro de 2006 2:44:13
> Assunto: Re: Res: [tied] Re: Veps "hebon" (horse) - PIE connection?
>
> On 2006-10-17 05:42, Joao S. Lopes wrote:
> > Hepon akin to Greek Hippos?
>
> No chance.




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