Re: Hittite hi- / Germanic preterito-presentic

From: tgpedersen
Message: 46352
Date: 2006-10-12

>
> Yes, I know that's your analysis. Still, here's mine, for the
> weak class 2:
>
> 3sg pret. PPPGerm. *V-ax (< *V-an,- ?), original endingless 3sg
> hi-conj. (-ahh-verbs) preterite (elsewhere later replaced by the
> equally endingless 3sg pret. punctual stem in -s),
> identical to the Baltic preterite in *-a: (originally a nominal
> form), with the fem./n.pl./dim. ending PPIE *-ak-).
>
> Then used in a periphrastic construction with the preterite of
> *dHeh1-, namely *dHoh1-

This might indicate that it was indeed PIE *-an,- (-> *-ax
word-finally):

*bHr-án,- :

PPPIE pres. *bHrák-ti, *bHrang-ánti, pret. *bHrak-ta
-> (generalization)
PPIE pres. *bHrán,-ti *bHrang-ánti, pret. *bHrak-ta ->
PPIE pres. *bHrén,-ti *bHr.ng-ánti, pret. *bHrok-ta ->
PGerm. pres. *brin,iT, *brin,and, pret *brox-t-

but cf Old Frisian brang- "bring"

BTW the class 1 of weak verbs in Germanic with pres. stem
in -i-/-j- has a few members with no -i- in the preterit,
but most have it. At the same time I was wondering whether
the strange anlaut alternation in the verb *dHeh1- in
Hittite
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46286
might have something to do with a prefix.
So

1sg dHh1-i-x-n,W -> te
2sg e-dHoh1-i-s^[-ta] -> da-
3sg e-dHoh1-i-s^ -> da-
1pl e-dHoh1-i-n,Wan -> -da
2pl e-dHoh1-i-s^-tan -> -da
3pl e-dHoh1-i-er -> -da

At the same time we might explain the o-grade of the verb
(because of an e-o- rule) and the -t-/-id- alternation of
the Germanic weak class 1 pret.

Or?


Torsten