Re: RE : Re: [tied] sabrina river

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 46329
Date: 2006-10-10

Usually Iberus is linked to Basque Iliberri or something like.

patrick cuadrado <dicoceltique@...> escreveu:
Thanks Piort and others !!!!!!
Another aquatic request :
For you
Latin Ebrius (drunk) is connected with Ebre River (Iberus) ?
and celtic Ibo- = to brink ?
 
Water = Ab- = Eb- = Ib -  ?
 
Celtic insription = ...ibetis uciu. andecari biiete... = Drink this, and you will be very kind
Breton Evit (Drink, you). Cornic Eva (Drink). Welsh Yfed/Yved (Swallow). Old irish Ibid (Drink, you)
Falisque Pibafo (Drink, you). Latin Pibit (He drinks) and Bibere (To drink). Sanskrit P¨ªbati (He drinks)
Serbo-Croate Piti (To booze). Tch¨¨que P¨ªt (Booze)
 
No IE
Hungarian Iv¨¢s (To booze)
Turkish Ibrik (Water Vase)
 
 
Or Ebrius is connected with root Bhru- (To boil ) ?
Celtic Briua- = Bridge : Welsh Bryw
 
English Brew (To boil)  = Welsh Berwi. Old irish Berbaid. Breton Birvi and God Celtic Boruo-
 
Celtic Beru- = Spring : Breton Beran (To flow). Old Irish Bir.
But Grec Phr¨¦ar (Puits/Source) and Latin Ferue¨­
 
 
 


Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@... edu.pl> a ¨¦crit :
On 2006-10-10 05:00, Brian M. Scott wrote:

> Watts, The Cambridge Dictionary of English Place-Names, puts
> Brit. *s- > /h/ in the mid-6th c. and the arrival of the
> English in 577. He thinks it unlikely that they'd have
> heard anything but /h/ pronunciations and suggests that it
> was important enough that they'd probably heard of it rather
> earlier.

Yes, Ceawlin's conquest of the Severn Valley began in 577, but I see no
reason why the Anglo-Saxons, especially those in what was to become
Mercia, should not have been aware of a major river just outside the
area controlled by them. Then, the change of s- > h- did not take place
overnight in AD 550; there must have been a lengthy period of variation,
with the conservative s-form (preserved also in British Latin) being
probably regarded as more careful. The Severn isn't the only example of
a Brittonic river-name retaining its *s in English.

Piotr




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