Re: [tied] Re: o-grade thoughts

On 2006-08-31 01:52, tgpedersen wrote:

>> One possible
>> explanation is that the pattern established after the working of
>> the PIE ablaut rules was *gWHi-gWHón-h2a/*gWHé-gWHn.-me, and
>> the variation of the reduplication vowel was levelled out.
>>
>
> I think I will ask you in very clear terms and in words that are
> not difficult to understand: can you mention one single example
> of that pattern in all of PIEdom etc etc. ? No ? I thought not.
> You are not able to corroborate that theory with a single shred
> of evidence etc etc.

The allomorphs of the reduplication vowel carried redundant information
and for that reason were easily levelled out, but the pattern has left
clear traces in Vedic. Cf.

3sg. si-s.ak-ti < *si-sékW-ti (or *si-sókW-ti, according to some)
3pl. sa-s'c-ati < *sé-skW-n.ti

In the present, the levelling-out was usually in favour of *i, because
this was the only outcome in thematic reduplications like *sí-sd-e/o-,
*g^í-g^n-e/o-, *stí-sth2-e/o-, etc., but sometimes it was the the *e
that became generalised, as in Ved. 3sg. da-dHa:-ti after 3pl. pl.
da-dH-ati (cf. GAv. dada:iti, dadaiti, but. Gk. titHe:mi with
i-reduplication).

Piotr