Re: [tied] Latin du:rus and Dacian Duras Diurpaneus

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 45865
Date: 2006-08-28

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2006-04-09 01:15, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Any help regarding the etymology of Latin duras
>
> You mean <du:rus>. The most widely accepted (if still somewhat
> speculative) etymology derives it from *dru:ro- < *druh-ró-, from the
> same root as Lith. drú:tas 'thick, strong'.
>

Is not better to consider a PIE *duh2-ro- >
Latin du:rus
Ved. du:rá-
Arm. erkar
...and maybe Grk. de:rós? (I know that this Greek derivation is
disputed, but we have at least the other cognates)

Thanks,
Marius


P.S. ...and in this case the Dacian King (69-86) Name 'Duras
Diurpaneus' (< Dacian *Du:-rás < PIE *duh2-ró-s -> could well belong
to 'this group' too :)

Duras Diurpaneus would mean in this case : 'The Resistant one, that one
that cannot be overtaken'


a) If so, we would have a wonderfull example here because: 'Duras
Diurpaneus' shows us that in Decebal's Time Dacian u:/accented was
already yu (Diurpaneus) (at least in some Dacian areas) but Dacian
u:/non-accented was still u:

Also this example shows us that the intermediary stage of PAlb u: was
Late-PAlb yu before to finally arrive to Alb y

This would also explain the derivation of Alb ti 'you' (as a lost of
the final -u in a previous yu) < Late-PAlb *tyu < PAlb tu: < PIE *tuH-
'you'

b) Not to forget PIE *d > Dacian d in this examples (and the PIE o >
Dacian a)