Re: Germanic strong verbs class VI

From: tgpedersen
Message: 45848
Date: 2006-08-27

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
> >
> > On 2006-08-15 03:09, tgpedersen wrote:
> >
> > > Took some time, but I found it again, fortunately ...
> > >
> > > http://www.verbix.com/documents/frisian.htm
> > >
> > > " Irregular verbs
> > >
> > > Infinitive: drank Past participle: dronken
> > >
> > > Present Past 1sg drank droonk 2sg drankst droonkst 3sg
> > > drankt droonkt pl drank droonk " I'd have to use Kuhn's
> > > argument that these late forms are 'popular', thus original, and
have
> > > been there all the time in a lower sociolect.
> >
> > Forms of unknown origin, possibly offered by Verbix, "a universal
Verb
> > Conjugator"?? This is computer-speak, not real Frisian, let alone a
> > conservative lower sociolect! Verbix is supposed to generate the
> > official conjugation for a given language or dialect, and it
evidently
> > failed to do so in this case if this is the authentic output of the
> > "universal Conjugator", not the result of a human's misspelling of
> words
> > in an unfamiliar language! (which I suspect is the case here). The
> > actual Modern Frisian forms are:
> >
> > Infinitive: drinke
> >
> > Present: drink, drinkst, drinkt; drinke
> > Preterite: dronk, dronkst, dronk; dronken
> > Past part.: dronken
> >
> > As for Old Frisian, the only forms recorded by Holthausen/Hoffmann
> > (1985) are drinka 'trinken', fordrinka 'vertrinken', exactly
> matching OE
> > drincan, OSax. drinken, Goth. drigkan etc.
> >
>
> Sorry, it was the first and only result I got from my first search.
> The pret. 3rd sg. -t should have alerted me.
>

On the other hand, according to
Boutkan: A Concise Grammar of the Old
Frisian Dialect of the First Riustring Manuscript
although the class III verbs follow the familiar pattern
in the present (i/e/iu), with "bring" it's
pres. ind. 3rd sg. brangth-, brangat, pl. brangath
pres. sub. 3rd brange, pl. brange
ppp. ebrocht


Torsten