[tied] Re: Question on PIE Root h2ep- 'to grab'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> On 2006-08-17 13:14, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Please tell me also if Latin api:scor could reflect an initial

*h1e-

> > or not ?
>
> Not *h1e-; that's for sure. One could ask whether Lat. ap- can

reflect

> PIE *h1p-. Laryngeals seem to have been lost before obstruents in

Latin,

> though the best examples I can think of involve laryngeals before

*s, as

> in 3pl. <sunt> (*h1sénti) and <stella> (*h2ster-). Nevertheless,

Latin

> often shows /a/ as a zero-grade substitute or "shwa secundum", an
> anaptyctic vowel filling a morphological vowel slot to break up a
> hard-to-syllabify consonant cluster, so at least in theory the
> development *h1p- --> *h1&p- > ap- is thinkable, especially in the
> verbal adjective <aptus> if from *h1p-tó-; this form may have

influenced

> the rest of the paradigm.
>
> Piotr
>

Thanks again, Piotr.


Viewing all these exceptions, could we imagine that finally this
root was *h1eh2p- and 'a derived' form *h1h2ep- could be the source
of Latin a in ap-i:scor, ap-tus as < PIE *h1h2p- (*h1h2p-tó- etc...
(a nil-grade of *h1h2ep- )


Could also a PIE root *h1eh2p- to be valid for Hittite forms too as:
epzi < *h1ep-ti and
appanzi < *h1h2p-ónti

explaining the alternance e/a at the beginnning of these two forms


Could this also explain somehow the Albanian forms:
jap/jep [2/3 sg] as a PAlb *ép- < *h1ep-
versus
a PAlb *ap- (also gheg.nap < PAlb *en-ap-) < PIE *h1h2p- (*en-
h1h2p-)



or is only my imagination here?

Thanks,
Marius