Re: Question on PIE Root h2ep- 'to grab'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> <akonushevci@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> <alexandru_mg3@>
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > However we still have:
> > >
> > > Latin api:scor indicating 'directly' h2ep-(or there is

also 'an

> > > aditional' Latin Rule PIE *h1e- > Latin a- that I'm not aware
> about?)
> >
> > [AK] I am not aware for any rule that *H2ep- would yield

Latin /a/,

>
>
> I mean: PIE *h2e- > Latin a (PIE *h2ep => Latin *ap- (see also

Latin

> amnis > as another example for such a phonetism )
>
>
> > > Albanian jap (considered with an analogical epetenthic 'j'

like

> in
> > > jam) indicating also h2ep-
> >
> > [AK]
> > Alb. <jap> 'to produce, give, work' with variant forms <ap>,

<nap>

> is
> > supposed to come from *H3ep- and has nothing to do with any

*H2ep-.

>
>
> Do not say => "nothing to do" 'so quickly' : please see first
> Demiraj on Leiden :
>
>
> "Albanian form: ap, jap {3} [verb] (tg) {1}
>
> Meaning: to give
>
> Gramm. forms: Present: (j)ap, (j)ep (2/3s) {2}
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> Page in Demiraj AE: 79
>
> IE reconstruction: h2ep-
>
> Meaning of the IE root: to reach, get at/to, capture
>
> Page in Pokorny: 50"
>
>
> that proposed h2ep- (making reference to the same PIE root in
> discussion with a change of the meaning in 'the inverse direction')
>
>
> Where you find a reference that put jap under the *h3ep- root?
>
> Marius

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It's my invention, based in its primary meaning 'to produce, yield':
Kjo lopë jep 20 litra qumësht 'This cow produces 20 liter of milk',
Kjo mollë jep 100 kile 'This apple tree produce 100 kilos', Kjo arë
jep 1000 kg drithë 'This field produces 1000 kg grain' etc. To my
view, secondary meaning is 'to give'.
I make such proposal as well in Cybalist, even I was objected by
Rasmussen that the meaning of Alb. <jap/ap> is only 'to give', the
fact that I can't accept, taking into consideration that I believe
that the primary meaning was, as testify above examples, 'to
produce'.
If the root was *H2ep-o, in that case the laryngeal will be
preserved, if we take as true Kortland's law that *H2- and *H3- were
preserved before /e/ and were lost before /o/.

Konushevci