Stød and rising tone

From: tgpedersen
Message: 45533
Date: 2006-07-26

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jens Elmegård Rasmussen <elme@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
>
> > I think you mean an anti-Hittite army, if the effect would
> > be to change the Hittite language? ;-)
> > Also the two opposing parties would have to speak languages
> > so similar that they were able to distinguish subjunctives
> > in the speech of the other party. Which event was that?
>
> I was not being very serious. But history is full of reports of
> hostilities between peoples that are very closely related. We are
> talking about changes in a language which *became* Hittite; I
don't
> know if that makes a bullying force imagined in the scenario
Hittite
> or anti-Hittite.
>

I think it is in the nature of the game that it is the
bulli-ees, not the bulliers, who change their language.


Anyway, on completely different subject:

When was in the army in Holbæk, I noticed that Sjællandsk
stød divided the vowel into two morae; something like
på?å 'på' (standard: på?) "on"
a?a 'af' (standard: a?) "off"
with a level tone on the first 'mora' and a similarly level,
but higher tone on the second.
It occcurred to me that if one left out the glottal stop,
ie. the closing of the glottis in that sequence, then, since
there was no interruption to 'reset' the tone height, the
result would be a two-morae, ie. long vowel which was rising
(since it had to get from the low tone to the high one).
This might be the way to explain the correspondence between
Danish stød and Swedish tone 1 (rising tone). What do you
think?


Torsten