Re: [tied] Some lengthened vowel Slavic verbs

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:31:31 +0200 (CEST), Mate Kapović
<mkapovic@...> wrote:

>On Sub, lipanj 24, 2006 12:20 pm, Miguel Carrasquer reče:
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:08:31 +0200 (CEST), Mate Kapović
>> <mkapovic@...> wrote:
>
>>>Acute long *a:, *e: and *o: were of course present in Balto-Slavic
>>>(< PIE *eh2, *eh1, *oH).
>>>In the case of examples like skoc^iti - skakati we are apparently dealing
>>>with old long *o: here. But according to you, PIE *o: should yield the
>>>acute, right? >Why the difference between sy´´pati and skaka´´ti then?
>>
>> No I don't think we're dealing with old long *o: here. I
>> think we're dealing with new (Balto-)Slavic */aa/, etc.:
>> expressive reduplication of the root syllable to denote the
>> iterative aspect.
>
>Thus, BSl *a > *a:. I fail to see the reason for this new *a: to be
>circumflexed.

There are two ways to lengthen or reduplicate a vowel: á =>
áa with the ictus or high tone staying where it was, or á =>
aá with the rise in tone moving one mora forward. In this
case, the first alternative was apparently chosen (where
possible). It is probably relevant that the whole thing
happened in pretonic position, and only secondary ictus or
rising tone was involved:

*ska`k-éye-ti "he jumps" => *ska`ak-yé-ti "he jumps
repeatedly"

>Besides, ga´´ziti is from PIE *g(W)eh2g'H- (Lith.
>góz^ti, Latv. ga^zt, Vedic gá:hate).

LIV has a different interpretation (see p. 183). I don't
really have an opinion.

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