Re: [tied] Re: Latin barba in disaccord with Grimm's Law?

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 45087
Date: 2006-06-24

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:30:04 +0200 (CEST), Mate Kapović
<mkapovic@...> wrote:

>On Sub, lipanj 24, 2006 12:36 am, Miguel Carrasquer reče:
>
>>>> That's rather from *kWtwó:r, like Grk. pisures or
>>>> (West-)Slavic c^Ityre.
>
>Not only West-Slavic, cf. Slovene s^tiri. But Slavic *c^Ityre has nothing
>to do with PIE *kWtwor-. The yer is a product of later sporadic reduction
>in Slavic, common after initial *c^-, cf. c^eso/c^Iso,
>c^elověkU/c^IlověkU.

Perhaps. The Slavic forms (c^etyre, c^Ityre), like the
Germanic form (Goth. fidwor) and Skt. catvá:ri, in any case
do not continue *kWétwor-, with accent on the first element
and short /o/ in the second, but are reflexes of collective
*kWtwó:rh2, with originally zero-grade in the first element,
and stress and long vowel in the second. Latin quattuor
retains the zero grade (as "schwa secundum"). Elsewhere,
*kWtwó:r may have been normalized to *kWetwó:r under the
influence of *kWétwor-es (as it also acquired -e < *-es in
Slavic under that same influence).


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