[tied] Re: Latin barba in disaccord with Grimm's Law?

From: Sean Whalen
Message: 45037
Date: 2006-06-21

--- "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:

> Perhaps the initial b- came from a compound, didnt
> it? SOmething like X-bHardHa > *X-barba, instead of
> expected initial *farba. A compound like imberbis
> (<*N-bHardHa-)
>
> Joao SL

I think the best explanation involves no PIE a and
only one case of assimilation. Looking at the changes
in order may help:

bhorzdha:x 1
bhorzdha: 2
bhordha: 3
phortha: 4
forTa: 5
forfa: 6
forva: 7
vorva: 8
borba: 9
borba 10
barba 11

Change 11 is the sporadic (but common) change of *o
to a after a rounded or labial C (w not included),
similar to the change of *o to a before w.

At stage 6 (*forfa:) the two fricatives have become
identical; the beginning of voicing in the second *f
probably caused the first to change too (sim. to bibo:
from *pib(h3)oh2).



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