Re: [tied] Some new etymologies

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 44912
Date: 2006-06-08

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
>
> in the said connection Alb and Rum have followed different paths
> since for Alb. peshkatar, Rom. knows "pescar", using an other
suffix
> (-arius) while for instance for a word as hunter, Rum. use the
same
> "-tore" (vânãtor) but Albanian has in use the suffix "-arius" here
> since the word is "giahtar".
>
> it appears very interesting to me due the common history of both
> language.......
>
> Alex
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No, Alb. word for hunter is <gjah-tar>, as well as <gjue-tar> `id.':
in first one suffix is attached to the noun <gjah> `hunt' and in
second one to the infinitive form <me gjue> `to hunt'. Same
phenomenon, the attachment of the suffix to infinitive form, we
could notice in Hittite: uesita `to graze', but nomen agentis ues-
tara (Çabej, SGJ, pp. 277.). The first model became more productive,
as we can see from: udhë-tar `traveler', rrugë-tar `id.', mesh-
tar `minister, prosbyter', fe-tar `religious', lojë-tar `player',
lundër-tar `sailor', peshka-tar `fisherman' and this suffix is
probably from PIE *-ter, also *-tor- that forms agent nouns from the
verbs with stem in –a: in Latin.
To conclude, Albanian suffix –tar(e) is directly derived from PIE *-
tor-.


Konushevci