[tied] Slavic lj [was: trzymac']

Mate Kapović wrote:

> Why do you suppose there was no *lj before the loss of the years?
> There
> are sequences *lj in Slavic, which are exactly *lj and not *lIj. Cf.
> for instance suffixes with *-j- etc.
>
>>> , and it is a common
>>> phenomenon that languages with a "hard" and "soft" l's borrow
>>> foreign "hard" l as their "soft" l, thus in Turkish and Albanian
>>> for example. There are also other examples when Romance /l/ >
>>> Slavic /l^/, as I seem to
>>> remember from Holzer's articles.
>>
>> In his Zagreb article I find one example (Pola > Pűlj), and
>> several with l = l. A quick scan doesn't reveal any with -l
>>> -o, but that may be coincidental.
>
> There is also a toponym Poljud from something like palu:des, as I
> remember
> it from the top of my head.

What about the river name Gi:la > Zilja? (in Slovenia, cited as an important
example of 2nd palatalization)

And also OCS skQdoljI 'a piece of pottery' < Lat. scandula.

Ban'kowski in his "Etymologiczny sl/ownik je,zyka polskiego" (Etymological
Dictionary of the Polish Language) supposes that Slavic *korljU (-u- stem)
comes from the Latin/Romance derivate "(rex) Carlius, (rex) Carleus" 'a
successor of Charlemagne'.

Grzegorz J.



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