Re: Dacian Sounds Laws - (1) Short Vowels

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
>
> > As you know we can have 'in the same time in the same context'

only

> > one phonetic rule => please take a look on the twpo supposed

below

> > rules (one of them for sure is not true)
> >
> >
> > 1. Latin kw/a,o > Rom ca,co /ka,ko/
> > ===================================
> > I quote here 'the official' etymologies (DEX -> see dexonline.ro)
> >
> > Rom. ca < Latin quam
> ...
>
> > On the other hand :
> >
> >
> > 1. Latin kw/a,o > Rom pa,po
> > ==========================
> > is based on:
> >
> > 1. Rom. apã < Latin aqua
> ...
> > 4. potârniche > Lat. *perturnicula (< per[dix] + *[co]turnicula)

or

> > *quo-turnicula
> ...
> > 5. pãresimi < Lat. quadragesima
> > Note: In contradiction with Rom. codru if from Lat. quadrum
> >
> > There are no others supposed Lat qua,quo > Rom. po,pa examples
>
> Three points:
>
> 1. The qua/o > ca/o examples are word-initial (plus one phrase

where

> it is morpheme-initial), while the qua > pa examples are mostly
> intervocalic.

Richard, patru & pãresimi are intervocalics ? :)

This represents 50% of the pa,po examples...

The other 50% are apa & iapa

> 2. Unfortunately, irregularities abound. It is just that an

etymology

> is weaker if it depends on an irregularity. In this case, /kw/

can be

> instantly reconceptualised as /k/ or /p/, so the psychological
> argument for regularity of sound change does not hold. In this
> respect it is similar to the interchange of /k/ and /g/, which can

be

> distressingly common, or the development of Latin <ae> and <au>,

where

> a failed sound change merged some of them with /e:/ and /o:/.
>
> 3. qua/o > ca/o is overwhelmingly a change in one morpheme,
> interrogative/relative /kw/.
>
> Richard.

Richard, I don't know phonetic rules that depends on a verb or a
noun or by a pronoun ....One context - one Rule is the basic
Linguivstic rule

Please take my list of words and write the rules like:

1. kw/a,o > p/a,o if ....
and
2. kw/a,o > k/a,o if ....

I don't see any clear rule based on your explanations



Marius