Re: [tied] ph3 > b PIE transformation?

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 43847
Date: 2006-03-15

> Could we imagine an intermediary phase "pb"? like a Celtic *apbon >
> *abon 'river' and also an intermediary stage *apb-lo for 'apple'
> too..

>>An imaginative mind can imagine anything, but what have these
fruits >>ofimagination got to do with reality?


Will be simple if everything 'is ok' and Only 'somebody (usually -
> 'the mad-man' :)) try to imagine something else'

Unfortunatunately they have to with the reality, Piotr.

a) an intervocalic b is 'usually' lost in Romanian (at least for sure
in multi-syllabic word)...So I cannot explain in anyway Romanian
abure with an original intervocalic -b- there in Dacian times. And
nobody 'can imagine' an intervocalic -b- there in dacian times. This
is 'the reality' and not 'to imagine'

b) I have the 'same reality' in Albanian dëborë where we have also an
intervocalic -b- in an multi-syllabic word (see Albanian det as a
regular output here). So even somebody could say that here dë-
was 'added later' to b>zero =>this is not good enough because we have
an ë in dë and a>& preceeded b/intervocalic>zero So the form of dëborë
seems to be quite old.

Finally it could be a single conclusion here: we didn't have an
intervocalic -b- in PAlb times....so 'we need' to find out what was
there....

Marius