Re: pre-indoeuropean europeans

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "andrew_and_inge"
<andrew.lancaster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "ytielts" <ytielts@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> > Have any remains been found and identified as long-headed, blond-
> > haired, blue-eyed and white-skinned peoples in Norway or Sweden

or

> > Denmark or any other European location before the so called Indo-
> > European speakers spread from their homeland, wherever it might

be?

> >
>
> We don't have many samples. Genes are more accurate, although they
> can also deceive us. At the moment I think the consensus would be
> that genetics has indicated a surprising amount of stability in

the

> genetic make up of Europeans. There are however signs of Eastern
> European and Central Asian genes having been spread around Europe
> from Scandinavia and what is now Northern Germany - presumably in

the

> Dark Ages. For example Y DNA haplotypes like I and R1a.
>
> For example many Scottish men have an R1a haplotype most similar

to

> Central Asians which seems to have come with the Norse, as it is
> common there, but no where else in the vicinity. (Most R1a people

in

> Britain apart from these ones are Ashkenazi Jewish.)
>

Eastern European and Central Asian genes spreading around Europe
from Scandinavia and what is now Northern Germany ? Huh?

Naively I would assume that if Eastern European and Central Asian
genes were spreading around Europe they would have come from Eastern
Europea and Central Asia.


Torsten